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	<title>Comments on: Help Me Help You</title>
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	<description>Repo(ssess) Repro(ductive Justice):  Bringing Rights within Reach</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Kleinman</title>
		<link>http://reporepro.lsrj.org/2009/08/04/help-me-help-you/#comment-9185</link>
		<author>Ben Kleinman</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit of inside baseball, I guess, but that's part of what this blog is for, no?

Attempting to use these admittedly fascinating facts seems _somewhat_ akin to saying: ladies, your breasts will be perkier if there are less toxic
fumes in the atmosphere, so let's all rally behind environmental activism.
In other words, it seems wrong on all sorts of levels.

First, I wonder if there's any empirical evidence that the same approaches that have worked to bring men into any movement won't work for this one, or that the approaches that work for women won't work for men. 

Second, I wonder if there's any value in considering the (specious?) argument that it's somehow easier to get urban folks involved in the environmental movement because they don't see the downside impact on small farmers and can rally behind a simple idea without have to grok the complexity.  For example, maybe it should be easier to get men to support some aspects of the RJ movement because many of the key decisions and ramifications are not theirs to deal with?  If thousands of people who have never seen a whale and have no real idea of the economic and environmental issues can sign up to put "save the whales" on their cars, then can't thousands of men be persuaded to put "save freedom, support choice" or "my body, my decision" bumper stickers on theirs?

But that's just prelude to what I think might be a more controversial and negative response.  Which, as is my way, has its own prelude.  Is the movement akin to the black power movement?  Is it akin to the black civil rights movement (which was less monolithically black but still predominantly so).  Is it akin to suffrage movements?  is it akin to abolition movements, where the empowered worked on behalf of the unempowered?  Or is it akin to movements for environmentalism, gun
rights,  or conservative values?  To what extent is this movement inherently gendered or sexed because, for the most part, the white man already has what he wants?

In other words, if this is about a woman's fight for her rights, then I think the movement will struggle to attract more than a relatively small number of hardcore male activists.  If, on the other hands, the movement is about health care or education then it will naturally have broader appeal.

So my bottom line: I don't think the RJ movement will ever get more than a handful of hard core male activists (but I think that it can get, and already has, far more male supporters).  I do think RJ's principles could be
easily inserted into broader platforms around marriage, education, and
health care reform that will benefit (or not) from a more diverse set of
activists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit of inside baseball, I guess, but that&#8217;s part of what this blog is for, no?</p>
<p>Attempting to use these admittedly fascinating facts seems _somewhat_ akin to saying: ladies, your breasts will be perkier if there are less toxic<br />
fumes in the atmosphere, so let&#8217;s all rally behind environmental activism.<br />
In other words, it seems wrong on all sorts of levels.</p>
<p>First, I wonder if there&#8217;s any empirical evidence that the same approaches that have worked to bring men into any movement won&#8217;t work for this one, or that the approaches that work for women won&#8217;t work for men. </p>
<p>Second, I wonder if there&#8217;s any value in considering the (specious?) argument that it&#8217;s somehow easier to get urban folks involved in the environmental movement because they don&#8217;t see the downside impact on small farmers and can rally behind a simple idea without have to grok the complexity.  For example, maybe it should be easier to get men to support some aspects of the RJ movement because many of the key decisions and ramifications are not theirs to deal with?  If thousands of people who have never seen a whale and have no real idea of the economic and environmental issues can sign up to put &#8220;save the whales&#8221; on their cars, then can&#8217;t thousands of men be persuaded to put &#8220;save freedom, support choice&#8221; or &#8220;my body, my decision&#8221; bumper stickers on theirs?</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just prelude to what I think might be a more controversial and negative response.  Which, as is my way, has its own prelude.  Is the movement akin to the black power movement?  Is it akin to the black civil rights movement (which was less monolithically black but still predominantly so).  Is it akin to suffrage movements?  is it akin to abolition movements, where the empowered worked on behalf of the unempowered?  Or is it akin to movements for environmentalism, gun<br />
rights,  or conservative values?  To what extent is this movement inherently gendered or sexed because, for the most part, the white man already has what he wants?</p>
<p>In other words, if this is about a woman&#8217;s fight for her rights, then I think the movement will struggle to attract more than a relatively small number of hardcore male activists.  If, on the other hands, the movement is about health care or education then it will naturally have broader appeal.</p>
<p>So my bottom line: I don&#8217;t think the RJ movement will ever get more than a handful of hard core male activists (but I think that it can get, and already has, far more male supporters).  I do think RJ&#8217;s principles could be<br />
easily inserted into broader platforms around marriage, education, and<br />
health care reform that will benefit (or not) from a more diverse set of<br />
activists.</p>
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